Veto #2

[Taylor]

Billy wins POV I think.

[Shadow]

yup

[Shadow]

but wait...this is the first one I've done:


I subtracted the times where the host was scoring / seconds they waited to give the correct number

Michele: 10 minutes & 28 seconds


-3:22
-1:52

Michele: 5 minutes & 14 seconds








But idk cuz Michele had A LOT of time to look over during the first grade.


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Renny: 6 minutes & 23 seconds


- 0:26


Renny: 5 minutes & 57 seconds


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Jeff: 5 minutes & 49 seconds


- 0:07
- 0:04


Jeff: 5 minutes & 38 seconds


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Libra: 22 minutes & 29 seconds


-1:59
-0:21
-0:20
-0:03
-0:38
-0:43
-0:24



Libra: 20 minutes



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Angie: 12 minutes & 57 seconds

-0:17
-0:02
-0:02


Angie: 12 minutes & 36 seconds


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Jordan: Give up


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Kevin: 22 minutes & 43 seconds


-0:16
-1:09
-0:26
-0:50


Kevin: 20 minutes & 2 seconds

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Natalie: 19 minutes & 17 seconds


-0:37
-0:02
-0:21


Natalie: 18 minutes & 17 seconds


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Ok I'm not touching Lydia's pile of mess, but I think either Jeff or Michele wins. It's your call here Kc, Michele had a lot of time to look over her answers while it was being graded compared to the others..so if you cut that in half than Jeff would win and even Renny would do better than her. But yeah.

[Sarah]

its not her fault if whoever hosted it for her took too long and she had more time to look over it and no one can prove that she did :-\ that's my opinion on the matter

[Shadow]

That's true Shir, but the other side of looking at it is... "it's also not fair she gets more time. Why couldn't my host take more time scoring?"

She asked if Britti was grading, I'm sure she was looking for mistakes as well. But yeah it's hard to prove and KC gets the final say

Also, Michele has the two highest waiting periods aside from one of Libra's

[Cody]

that's a tough call... Jeff had about 5 minutes to look at it while Michele got 10 minutes to look at it.

and the diff is only 14 seconds

I had the same subtracting method in a challenge I just hosted, but Jeff only took like 10 seconds to reply for his next move and he got in on the 3rd try so it wouldn't have helped him to get more time to look at it.

Plus it took Michelle 10 seconds to reply, if she was actually looking it over all that time she would have had it ready to be entered the second she was told she was wrong.

With all that being said.... Hi

[Shadow]

Michele had all 23 names in one i-m after Britti told her how many were wrong. I seriously doubt she typed ALL of those 23 names in 10 seconds. She definitely had it prepared.

The first time she did it she had each name in SEPARATE i-ms, meaning she was using that time to try and fix her mistakes.

I think Jeff should win because it's clear Michele was using the time Britti was scoring to actually put all 23 names into one i-m in a new order. So that time should be added on, making Jeff win

[Taylor]

Jun 18, 2010 16:31:51 GMT -5 Cody said:

With all that being said.... Hi

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[Sheila Kennedy]

Fuck em both and give it to Jordan xD

But seriously, whether if Michele or Jeff wins hit should hit the fan, and hit it pretty hard might I add.

[Cody]

I thought the subtracting time thing was a stated rule, oops.

So now I think Jeff wins.

[Sarah]

Jun 18, 2010 16:41:35 GMT -5 Shadow said:

Michele had all 23 names in one i-m after Britti told her how many were wrong. I seriously doubt she typed ALL of those 23 names in 10 seconds. She definitely had it prepared.

The first time she did it she had each name in SEPARATE i-ms, meaning she was using that time to try and fix her mistakes.

I think Jeff should win because it's clear Michele was using the time Britti was scoring to actually put all 23 names into one i-m in a new order. So that time should be added on, making Jeff win

i disagree. since there is no way to prove whether or not michele used the ENTIRE 10 minutes to look things over, its complete unfair to rule her out of winning. you cant just give it to jeff based on how short his waiting time was when u dont know how long michele or jeff took from their actual waiting time to look things over.
if u are taking off waiting time [which i definitely think u should], then thats all that matters. its not our place to determine whether or not they used up the entire 10 minutes to put all the names down and it would be completely unfair to do that.

[Shadow]

Jun 18, 2010 17:50:01 GMT -5 Sarah said:

Jun 18, 2010 16:41:35 GMT -5 Shadow said:

Michele had all 23 names in one i-m after Britti told her how many were wrong. I seriously doubt she typed ALL of those 23 names in 10 seconds. She definitely had it prepared.

The first time she did it she had each name in SEPARATE i-ms, meaning she was using that time to try and fix her mistakes.

I think Jeff should win because it's clear Michele was using the time Britti was scoring to actually put all 23 names into one i-m in a new order. So that time should be added on, making Jeff win

i disagree. since there is no way to prove whether or not michele used the ENTIRE 10 minutes to look things over, its complete unfair to rule her out of winning. you cant just give it to jeff based on how short his waiting time was when u dont know how long michele or jeff took from their actual waiting time to look things over.
if u are taking off waiting time [which i definitely think u should], then thats all that matters. its not our place to determine whether or not just used up the entire 10 minutes to put all the names down and it would be completely unfair to do that.

thats ridiculous. Jeff's waiting time was NOTHING. It's quite obvious Michele compiled that list of names into one i-m during the time Britti was scoring. Also if we simply didn't deduct the waiting time then Jeff wins and Michelle is 10 mins plus. If we are GOING to deduct waiting time like you say we should then we have to be fair to consider the WAITING time that Michele had.

[Sarah]

but its not up to us to determine whether she used that time or not.
you cant assume she used up the ENTIRE 10 minutes. how do u know she didnt have it all written down within 2-3 minutes? its actually veryyyy possible.

[Shadow]

huh? no. never said she used the whole 10 mins



thats SO britti (9:24:40 PM): i48.tinypic.com/2eq9nki.png
Michele (9:24:47 PM): Keesha
Michele (9:24:49 PM): Michelle
Michele (9:24:51 PM): Steven
Michele (9:24:56 PM): Natalie
Michele (9:24:57 PM): Memphis
Michele (9:24:59 PM): Me
Michele (9:25:07 PM): Angie
Michele (9:25:22 PM): Kevin
Michele (9:25:49 PM): Laura
Michele (9:25:54 PM): Lydia
Michele (9:26:00 PM): Ollie
Michele (9:26:01 PM): Chima
Michele (9:26:02 PM): Ronnie
Michele (9:26:03 PM): Dan
Michele (9:26:04 PM): Jeff
Michele (9:26:35 PM): Russel
Michele (9:26:36 PM): Bacon
Michele (9:26:36 PM): Brian
Michele (9:26:38 PM): Pickle Head
Michele (9:26:39 PM): Angie
Michele (9:26:58 PM): April
Michele (9:26:58 PM): Braden
Michele (9:26:58 PM): Jerryy
Michele (9:26:58 PM): KK
Michele (9:28:52 PM): are you grading?
thats SO britti (9:28:57 PM): yes dont type plz
thats SO britti (9:30:20 PM): 19 right
Michele (9:30:30 PM): Keesha
Michelle
Steven
Natalie
Michele
April
Kevin
Libra
Lydia
Ollie
Chima
Ronnie
Dan
Jeff
Russel
Bacon
Brian
Pickle Head
Angie
Laura
Braden
Jerry
thats SO britti (9:32:22 PM): 3 right.



The first time she did it she had the names in separate i-ms. The second time she did them she had them all in one sent i-m. She sent it 10 seconds after Britti gave her the correct amount. Not possible she typed all 23 names in that time. She was obviously using the time.


But also like Cody said, if we didn't deduct times than Micheles 10+ plus anyways

[Sheila Kennedy]

I agree with the pussy Jeff wins. There's no way she wrote all those names in 10 seconds. Especially since Kye said he didn't really want to win veto.

[Sarah]

he could have had it written down the first 2 minutes... had it copied and pasted it within 10 seconds.
the point IS, you can't prove that michele used the entire 10 minutes to have the list written out because she could have had it written out within 2 minutes too.

[Sarah]

its not about how loing it took her to write it out... this is about the waiting time.
u cant prove she used the entire 10 minutes to figure it out when she could have figured it out in 2 minutes, written out in a separate IM and then pasted it...

[Shadow]

It's obvious Michele had more time LOOKING at the picture. As Cody pointed out, 10 minutes to 5 minutes is a big difference. That gives her a lot of extra time to compare the blurred images to the real ones.
I guess then that there's no need to even deduct those times and Jeff would still win

and what 2 minutes? If your saying she did it in 2 minutes then that should be counted

[Amanda]

this is tricky =/

i kind of agree with shir though there is no way to know how long it actually took michele to figure it out

[Shadow]

he obviously didn't know Keesha would be # 1 etc and etc. so saying he had names and lists PRe typed is stupid. He obviously made the order based on his first guesses and using the picture for his second time answering. We're ignoring that time if we give him the win