Post by Dan on Jul 8, 2010 0:29:20 GMT -5
I had a nice little chat with Bacon and I thought it was something that needed to be shared with the whole house.
By posting this, I am in now way advocating that you all "hate" him. Hell, I don't even hate him. Hate would indicate that I actually hold some sort of value to him. Dislike for the things he says, the stuff he makes up and how he acts is more accurate.
Also, if he says I made up anything in this convo, I've already shown a few people the whole thing so they can back it up. I'll be on aim to chat also.
DanIsNotJudas (9:37:20 PM): You have a lot of nerve, kid. For real. I'm completely amazed at how delusional and ridiculous you are.
Bacon (9:38:12 PM): I'm delusional? okay :-)
DanIsNotJudas (9:38:23 PM): Yes Zack
DanIsNotJudas (9:38:25 PM): you are.
Bacon (9:38:40 PM): How so?
DanIsNotJudas (9:39:08 PM): just keep it up.
Bacon (9:39:21 PM): I will :-D
DanIsNotJudas (9:39:32 PM): because I mean, its obvious who your real life friends are now
DanIsNotJudas (9:39:42 PM): the fact that you havent said their names is what makes it obvious to me
DanIsNotJudas (9:39:53 PM): and I know who Im close to and I know who I tell things to
DanIsNotJudas (9:39:56 PM): so for that fact alone
DanIsNotJudas (9:40:06 PM): Ive already narrowed it down
Bacon (9:40:11 PM): Ok :-)
Bacon (9:40:28 PM): Apparently I know who your close to also... I mean... you sure seem pretty upset about my noms
DanIsNotJudas (9:40:40 PM): Oh this isnt about the noms
DanIsNotJudas (9:40:48 PM): and Im not even upset.
DanIsNotJudas (9:40:59 PM): If I was upset, you'd be getting cussed out.
DanIsNotJudas (9:41:06 PM): That is how I show emotions through text online
DanIsNotJudas (9:41:20 PM): but since you are just some random kid, I can talk to you in a more direct and mature manner
DanIsNotJudas (9:42:05 PM): However, since you did bring the nominations up to me
DanIsNotJudas (9:42:17 PM): your reasons behind what you did is just full of delusion and hypocrisy
DanIsNotJudas (9:42:22 PM): I hope you know that
Bacon (9:42:58 PM): and per say what do you think is my reason?
DanIsNotJudas (9:43:03 PM): I've read your reasons
DanIsNotJudas (9:43:09 PM): It's a bunch of crap
DanIsNotJudas (9:43:11 PM): lol
DanIsNotJudas (9:43:20 PM): and its per se
DanIsNotJudas (9:43:21 PM): not per say
Bacon (9:43:23 PM): so the fact that they lie to me is crap?
DanIsNotJudas (9:43:31 PM): if you want to use such lingo, use it in the right form
DanIsNotJudas (9:44:27 PM): I dont care who lies to you, and I doubt they even did. Thats just your perception of it. Anyways, whatever happens in that house has nothing to do with me so dont use me as an excuse for why you do or say things
Bacon (9:49:10 PM): I can't help it.... i'm sure you have people in this game you trust more then the others... and I have mine... and it just so happens that the people I trust when they give me info... even on other people... it all seems to trickle back to you so.... what can I do.... If one of your close friends says 'I heard this... and it originiated from Bacon' your probably gonna believe them... if mine say 'I heard this... and it originated with Dan' I gotta feel the same way.
DanIsNotJudas (9:49:29 PM): NO
DanIsNotJudas (9:49:32 PM): that is where you're wrong.
Bacon (9:49:51 PM): really.... you sure took other peoples words that I was targetting you when I never was.....
DanIsNotJudas (9:49:52 PM): I would go to you and ask if you said that because I like hearing both sides of a story before forming my own opinion
DanIsNotJudas (9:49:57 PM): That is what a logical person does
DanIsNotJudas (9:50:03 PM): what you did today was out of emotion
DanIsNotJudas (9:50:14 PM): and the reprecussions from it will not go in your favor
Bacon (9:50:56 PM): It had nothing to do with Emotions today... trust me... I like Jeff and I haven't talked to Renny much but she seemed okay... today was strictly strategical... and hold on i'm trying to find the aim log of you coming to me to talk to me about rumors of me targetting you.
DanIsNotJudas (9:51:00 PM): NO I DIDNT. You're so blind man. I never thought you were targetting me!
DanIsNotJudas (9:51:14 PM): But the fact that we were aligned and people told ME that YOU were saying how I needed to go
DanIsNotJudas (9:51:25 PM): its hypocrisy when you blame other people for not telling you things
DanIsNotJudas (9:51:28 PM): but you do the same damn thing
Bacon (9:53:22 PM): when I won veto and approached you... I was like 'wth dude... I thought we were cool' and you were like 'I hear you been telling people I need to go'.... and that was your whole defense for like 30 minutes until I was like 'how can you even say that I haven't been around for like 4 days to do that' and then you were like 'oh well that's the whole reason I nominated you'.... I mean where was the convo where you came to me and say 'Hey dude... I'm hearing people say your telling them I need to go... I just wanted to talk to you about this.' I mean by your statement that's the logical thing to do but I don't recall such a conversation.
DanIsNotJudas (9:54:00 PM): hey guess what bud
DanIsNotJudas (9:54:03 PM): if we were truly allies
DanIsNotJudas (9:54:07 PM): I wouldnt need to ask you about it
DanIsNotJudas (9:54:29 PM): YOU shouldve just came to me and told me, "Hey dan theres people who want you out, they told me and I had to come tell you since were allies"
DanIsNotJudas (9:54:38 PM): because guess what, I dont recall that conversation either
Bacon (9:55:33 PM): Your right.... I didn't come and tell you that... but that doesn't make you any less guilty... of not coming to me cause if you were a true ally to me you would of said 'these people are talking crap about you saying your targetting me'
DanIsNotJudas (9:57:21 PM): Yeah well, I didnt and neither did you. So don't act all high and mighty like "I have friends in this game who Ive known for years and I have reliable sources blah blah blah and you're gone next Dan, yada yada"
Bacon (9:57:54 PM): reality is, you can say this is emotional or whatever... but has nothing to do with emotions or with you... bottom line is.... I was at the bottom of the totem pole to start with... and best case scenario I could of played nice with those calling the shots and maybe bought myself a couple weeks at most but then been gone again... or I could go with the less popular decision... best case scenario it works out for me... worst case... I get eliminated... on well... I was already in the worst case before hand...
DanIsNotJudas (9:57:57 PM): Your reliable sources, "Whoever they are" *eyeroll* probably talk just as much shit about you as everyone else does
DanIsNotJudas (9:58:21 PM): and even if they talk about me, guess what? I DONT CARE! They arent my real life friends lol
DanIsNotJudas (9:58:29 PM): This is a game and you take yourself way too seriously.
Bacon (9:59:07 PM): ironic.... seems like your taking this game a lot more serious tonight then I am... i'm the one like 'it's a game... if it works out cool... if not... whatever i'm gone... no biggie' but you seem to be more worked up over the situation now then I am lol
DanIsNotJudas (9:59:52 PM): lol not worked up. I am just telling you my opinions. If you perceive me to be upset then hey, thats your view on it. But you're wrong as you have been all game.
DanIsNotJudas (10:00:25 PM): Just the fact that you seem to be doing things based on hearsay and what other people tell you lol
Bacon (10:01:14 PM): I'm doing my decision based on what I feel isn't me just playing other peoples games, doing what they want and then getting carried maybe an extra round or two for playing nice before being disposed of....
DanIsNotJudas (10:01:54 PM): okay Zack. Fair enough. You think what you want and not necessarily whats actually going on. Thus, making you delusional.
Bacon (10:03:21 PM): I can just tell you this.... i'm not so over this game it's a suicide mission though... if I had everyone in my house being upset about the decision I wouldn't have made it and burned all my bridges.... this decision was mine first.... but the more people I talked to afterwards... most said they'd like to see one of the nominees up before I even told them what I was thinking... so I know Renny thinks i'm full of crap... but I really did have more then half the houses backing on this decision so.... I knew when I made this decision the backlash from it relies fully on who wins HoH next week.
DanIsNotJudas (10:04:26 PM): OR they just tell you what you want to hear so you dont nominate them. If you think thats what people are doing to me, what makes you think they arent doing the same to you
Bacon (10:08:20 PM): Then i'm gone next week or the week after... which if that's the case... I was on borrowed time anyway... atleast I went out trying to thrive rather then just play nice and being carried along by others and then being voted out and 'hey thanks for the ride... i'm cool with 16th place' or whatever....
DanIsNotJudas (10:09:54 PM): Okay Zack. That is fair enough.
By posting this, I am in now way advocating that you all "hate" him. Hell, I don't even hate him. Hate would indicate that I actually hold some sort of value to him. Dislike for the things he says, the stuff he makes up and how he acts is more accurate.
Also, if he says I made up anything in this convo, I've already shown a few people the whole thing so they can back it up. I'll be on aim to chat also.
DanIsNotJudas (9:37:20 PM): You have a lot of nerve, kid. For real. I'm completely amazed at how delusional and ridiculous you are.
Bacon (9:38:12 PM): I'm delusional? okay :-)
DanIsNotJudas (9:38:23 PM): Yes Zack
DanIsNotJudas (9:38:25 PM): you are.
Bacon (9:38:40 PM): How so?
DanIsNotJudas (9:39:08 PM): just keep it up.
Bacon (9:39:21 PM): I will :-D
DanIsNotJudas (9:39:32 PM): because I mean, its obvious who your real life friends are now
DanIsNotJudas (9:39:42 PM): the fact that you havent said their names is what makes it obvious to me
DanIsNotJudas (9:39:53 PM): and I know who Im close to and I know who I tell things to
DanIsNotJudas (9:39:56 PM): so for that fact alone
DanIsNotJudas (9:40:06 PM): Ive already narrowed it down
Bacon (9:40:11 PM): Ok :-)
Bacon (9:40:28 PM): Apparently I know who your close to also... I mean... you sure seem pretty upset about my noms
DanIsNotJudas (9:40:40 PM): Oh this isnt about the noms
DanIsNotJudas (9:40:48 PM): and Im not even upset.
DanIsNotJudas (9:40:59 PM): If I was upset, you'd be getting cussed out.
DanIsNotJudas (9:41:06 PM): That is how I show emotions through text online
DanIsNotJudas (9:41:20 PM): but since you are just some random kid, I can talk to you in a more direct and mature manner
DanIsNotJudas (9:42:05 PM): However, since you did bring the nominations up to me
DanIsNotJudas (9:42:17 PM): your reasons behind what you did is just full of delusion and hypocrisy
DanIsNotJudas (9:42:22 PM): I hope you know that
Bacon (9:42:58 PM): and per say what do you think is my reason?
DanIsNotJudas (9:43:03 PM): I've read your reasons
DanIsNotJudas (9:43:09 PM): It's a bunch of crap
DanIsNotJudas (9:43:11 PM): lol
DanIsNotJudas (9:43:20 PM): and its per se
DanIsNotJudas (9:43:21 PM): not per say
Bacon (9:43:23 PM): so the fact that they lie to me is crap?
DanIsNotJudas (9:43:31 PM): if you want to use such lingo, use it in the right form
DanIsNotJudas (9:44:27 PM): I dont care who lies to you, and I doubt they even did. Thats just your perception of it. Anyways, whatever happens in that house has nothing to do with me so dont use me as an excuse for why you do or say things
Bacon (9:49:10 PM): I can't help it.... i'm sure you have people in this game you trust more then the others... and I have mine... and it just so happens that the people I trust when they give me info... even on other people... it all seems to trickle back to you so.... what can I do.... If one of your close friends says 'I heard this... and it originiated from Bacon' your probably gonna believe them... if mine say 'I heard this... and it originated with Dan' I gotta feel the same way.
DanIsNotJudas (9:49:29 PM): NO
DanIsNotJudas (9:49:32 PM): that is where you're wrong.
Bacon (9:49:51 PM): really.... you sure took other peoples words that I was targetting you when I never was.....
DanIsNotJudas (9:49:52 PM): I would go to you and ask if you said that because I like hearing both sides of a story before forming my own opinion
DanIsNotJudas (9:49:57 PM): That is what a logical person does
DanIsNotJudas (9:50:03 PM): what you did today was out of emotion
DanIsNotJudas (9:50:14 PM): and the reprecussions from it will not go in your favor
Bacon (9:50:56 PM): It had nothing to do with Emotions today... trust me... I like Jeff and I haven't talked to Renny much but she seemed okay... today was strictly strategical... and hold on i'm trying to find the aim log of you coming to me to talk to me about rumors of me targetting you.
DanIsNotJudas (9:51:00 PM): NO I DIDNT. You're so blind man. I never thought you were targetting me!
DanIsNotJudas (9:51:14 PM): But the fact that we were aligned and people told ME that YOU were saying how I needed to go
DanIsNotJudas (9:51:25 PM): its hypocrisy when you blame other people for not telling you things
DanIsNotJudas (9:51:28 PM): but you do the same damn thing
Bacon (9:53:22 PM): when I won veto and approached you... I was like 'wth dude... I thought we were cool' and you were like 'I hear you been telling people I need to go'.... and that was your whole defense for like 30 minutes until I was like 'how can you even say that I haven't been around for like 4 days to do that' and then you were like 'oh well that's the whole reason I nominated you'.... I mean where was the convo where you came to me and say 'Hey dude... I'm hearing people say your telling them I need to go... I just wanted to talk to you about this.' I mean by your statement that's the logical thing to do but I don't recall such a conversation.
DanIsNotJudas (9:54:00 PM): hey guess what bud
DanIsNotJudas (9:54:03 PM): if we were truly allies
DanIsNotJudas (9:54:07 PM): I wouldnt need to ask you about it
DanIsNotJudas (9:54:29 PM): YOU shouldve just came to me and told me, "Hey dan theres people who want you out, they told me and I had to come tell you since were allies"
DanIsNotJudas (9:54:38 PM): because guess what, I dont recall that conversation either
Bacon (9:55:33 PM): Your right.... I didn't come and tell you that... but that doesn't make you any less guilty... of not coming to me cause if you were a true ally to me you would of said 'these people are talking crap about you saying your targetting me'
DanIsNotJudas (9:57:21 PM): Yeah well, I didnt and neither did you. So don't act all high and mighty like "I have friends in this game who Ive known for years and I have reliable sources blah blah blah and you're gone next Dan, yada yada"
Bacon (9:57:54 PM): reality is, you can say this is emotional or whatever... but has nothing to do with emotions or with you... bottom line is.... I was at the bottom of the totem pole to start with... and best case scenario I could of played nice with those calling the shots and maybe bought myself a couple weeks at most but then been gone again... or I could go with the less popular decision... best case scenario it works out for me... worst case... I get eliminated... on well... I was already in the worst case before hand...
DanIsNotJudas (9:57:57 PM): Your reliable sources, "Whoever they are" *eyeroll* probably talk just as much shit about you as everyone else does
DanIsNotJudas (9:58:21 PM): and even if they talk about me, guess what? I DONT CARE! They arent my real life friends lol
DanIsNotJudas (9:58:29 PM): This is a game and you take yourself way too seriously.
Bacon (9:59:07 PM): ironic.... seems like your taking this game a lot more serious tonight then I am... i'm the one like 'it's a game... if it works out cool... if not... whatever i'm gone... no biggie' but you seem to be more worked up over the situation now then I am lol
DanIsNotJudas (9:59:52 PM): lol not worked up. I am just telling you my opinions. If you perceive me to be upset then hey, thats your view on it. But you're wrong as you have been all game.
DanIsNotJudas (10:00:25 PM): Just the fact that you seem to be doing things based on hearsay and what other people tell you lol
Bacon (10:01:14 PM): I'm doing my decision based on what I feel isn't me just playing other peoples games, doing what they want and then getting carried maybe an extra round or two for playing nice before being disposed of....
DanIsNotJudas (10:01:54 PM): okay Zack. Fair enough. You think what you want and not necessarily whats actually going on. Thus, making you delusional.
Bacon (10:03:21 PM): I can just tell you this.... i'm not so over this game it's a suicide mission though... if I had everyone in my house being upset about the decision I wouldn't have made it and burned all my bridges.... this decision was mine first.... but the more people I talked to afterwards... most said they'd like to see one of the nominees up before I even told them what I was thinking... so I know Renny thinks i'm full of crap... but I really did have more then half the houses backing on this decision so.... I knew when I made this decision the backlash from it relies fully on who wins HoH next week.
DanIsNotJudas (10:04:26 PM): OR they just tell you what you want to hear so you dont nominate them. If you think thats what people are doing to me, what makes you think they arent doing the same to you
Bacon (10:08:20 PM): Then i'm gone next week or the week after... which if that's the case... I was on borrowed time anyway... atleast I went out trying to thrive rather then just play nice and being carried along by others and then being voted out and 'hey thanks for the ride... i'm cool with 16th place' or whatever....
DanIsNotJudas (10:09:54 PM): Okay Zack. That is fair enough.